This is the best draft I've looked at so far. Just completely loaded. I think there are a few Hall of Famers here. If you look back at the this class, you had Vince Young, Matt Leinart and Reggie Bush as the big names, however the rest of the guys are the ones who make this draft memorable. So here we go again, we'll go over the top 10 then the rest of the notable guys taken.
#1 Houston-Mario Williams-NC State. With all those huge names Houston goes off and takes this guy #1. Boy were they right Mario has had a better career than Reggie Bush and Vince Young (who was the hometown Houston boy). Wow this sounds awfully familiar, Houston has the #1 pick and they have the choice between a big time DE or the hometown dynamic athletic QB. Wow can't believe I just put that together. Anyway back to Williams, he turned out pretty good and even though he left as a free agent I still think Houston made the proper choice.
#2 New Orleans-Reggie Bush=USC. Supposed to be on of the best RB's ever coming out of college. Can do it all, can run, can catch out of the backfield, can return kicks. Reggie had it all, and even though he was never a breakthrough feature back, he has been in the league and is still a valuable player. Maybe not #2 worthy but he's still a good pro.
#3 Tennessee-Vince Young-Texas. Well VY bursted onto the scene he senior year. Lead Texas to a national title. He then was talked about go #1 to Houston but he fell to 3 and Tennessee. He had a great start to his career but soon he fizzled out. He tried to latch on at other places but never really made it. He is currently without a team but I don't think he's technically retired. Is he considered a bust? Not sure how to answer that exactly but I don't think he's an all out bust just a sort of bust.
#4 New York Jets-D'Brickashaw Ferguson-Virginia. Was probably my favorite player in this draft, mostly for his name. Brick has made a few pro bowls and is one of the better paid lineman in the league. He's a solid player and honestly one of the best players in this draft.
#5 Green Bay-AJ Hawk-Ohio St. Not often a MLB goes top 5, but Green Bay felt he filled a need. He has been a good pro, has a ring, and is till in GB. The guy is pretty good.
#6 San Francisco-Vernon Davis-Maryland. Once again not a typical position to see in the top 10. Davis has been stud in SF. The guy could be in the HOF when it's all said and done. He's had some weak points, being called out by former coach Mike Singeltary, bur for the most part a pretty solid career so far.
#7 Oakland-Micheal Huff-Texas. What is it about Oakland that when they draft the safe positions it still doesn't work. I mean they took Gallery he fizzled, and Huff wasn't much better. The guy was maybe thought as the surest thing in this draft. He's bounced around but still hasn't been much. He's bust worthy and even though he wasn't a head scratcher during the draft he seems to be now.
#8 Buffalo-Donte Whitner-Ohio St. This guy has been one of the better DB's in the league. He isn't the best probably not considered a top 5 CB, but he has been reliable.
#9 Detroit-Ernie Sims-Florida St. Finally Detroit doesn't take a receiver in the top 10, but Sims didn't pan out much better than the rest of their picks. Bust
#10 Arizona-Matt Leinart-USC. If he would've came out a year earlier some say he would've gone #1. Instead he stayed in school, fell to 10 and honestly should've fell farther. Pretty big bust.
Now onto some other notable picks,
You don't have to go far to find the next best player Denver took Jay Cutler at 11, easily the best QB in this draft.
Baltimore got Haloti Ngata at 12, could be a HOF type guy, even though he killed RG's knee.
Hawkeye Chad Greenway went to Minny at 17, he's been a pretty good player for them.
Picks 20-29 gave us 6 eventual Pro Bowlers, Tamba Ali, Davin Joseph, Johnathan Joseph, Deangelo Williams, Marcedes Lewis, and Nick Mangold. Also Pittsburgh got Santonio Holmes in the 20's, so that's 7 difference makers taken in that neighborhood.
Bears took Devin Hester in the 2nd, a pretty good steal for the best return man ever.
Jacksonville got MoJo Drew in the 2nd as well, his #'s compared to Reggie Bush are actually better so that seems like a pretty good steal.
The 4th round yielded some studs, Owen Daniels, Jahri Evans, Leon Washington, and Stephen Gostowski.
Denver had a pretty awesome 4th round, they got Brandon Marshall and Elvis Dumervil.
Thorn in my side Cortland Finnegan went in the 7th to Tennessee, nice pick by Jeff Fischer there.
The best players to slip through the cracks, were Miles Austin and Tramon Williams.
Really feel that Ernie Sims, Mike Huff, and Matt Leinart were pretty big busts and all 3 teams could've done better.
I think Denver had the best draft, they got 3 Pro Bowlers and Marshall could be an a HOF'er.
That's it for this one, if I have time I'll try to keep this up, follow me on twitter @DerekBredeson
Sunday, May 4, 2014
Draft Revisited: 2005
2005 in my eyes is a horrible draft, you got a few diamonds (see Rodgers, Aaron) but for the most part it was pretty weak. 3 of the top 5 picks were RB's, and 2 of the top 5 aren't in the league anymore. Let's go through the top 10 then look at some other notable guys taken.
#1 San Francisco-Alex Smith-Utah, a lot of people will say bust and I will agree slightly. Honestly though he never got a fair shake in SF, Alex had a good year in Kansas City last year, he's not elite but he's a starting QB in the league, just not #1, don't say Aaron Rodgers to 49er fans.
#2 Miami-Ronnie Brown-Auburn. As you'll see Auburn had 2 stud RB's in this draft, I honestly though Cadillac was better than Brown, but Ronnie has stood the test of time. He had a few good years in Miami and has since bounced around a little. As time has shown though taking a RB in the top 5 these days is never a good decision.
#3 Cleveland-Braylon Edwards-Michigan. I of course loved this pick, I was a huge Michigan fan and I thought Braylon was a great receiver. Even though he did have 1 great year where him and Derek Anderson were on the same page, he never could find that magic again and has been out of the league for a couple of years now.
#4 Chicago-Cedric Benons-Texas. Well he's still in the league, has a had a few run-ins with the law which lead to his exit from Chicago. He was a decent player but still the cautionary tale of taking a RB in the top 5.
#5 Tampa Bay Carnell Williams-Auburn. The Cadillac was pretty awesome in college. But he only had one 1000 yard rushing season (his rookie year) in the league. Never had more than 6 TD's in a season. He had some knee problems and is no longer in the league. Hard to call him a bust since he won rookie of the year and you can't predict a guy tearing both patella tendons.
#6 Tennessee-Adam Jones-West Virginia. The Pac-Man is still in the league as well, but has a long arrest history and a few suspensions. The fact he's still around is actually pretty impressive.
#7 Minnesota-Troy Williamson-South Carolina. Umm bust? Dude had 87 catches for 1100 or so yards and 4 TD's in his 5 year career, too think Aaron Rodgers went 24th and Minnesota got this guy at 7.
#8 Arizona-Antrell Rolle-Miami (FL). I remember hoping he would fall to the Redskins at 9, hoping him and Sean Taylor could recreate some of the U in DC. Rolle has been a good pro, he has a ring from the Giants, can't say horrible things about the guy he's a good pro.
#9 Washington-Carlos Rogers-Auburn. We're 9 picks in and we have our third Auburn player. I've always though Carlos was a good DB, and he could cover about anyone. His one knock is he can't catch a cold. He eventually left DC for San Francisco and he had a great year 2 years ago, can't fault the Skins for taking him.
#10 Detroit-Mike Williams-USC. In the words of Mike Ditka, he's a slow tight end in a receivers body. Let's just say Matt Millen had no clue how to draft. BUST
Now some other notable players taken.
Gotta start with the best player in this draft Aaron Rodgers went 24 to Green Bay, he's got an MVP and a ring, yeah the first 23 teams all screwed the pooch.
Picks 11-15 yielded 4 Pro Bowlers, DeMarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, Jammal Brown, and Derrick Johnson. Merriman isn't in the league anymore but he had a few good years.
At 17 one of my favorite guys David Pollack got taken by Cinncy. He could've been awesome but had neck problems and had to retire early. Love the guy on ESPN now.
Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and New England all made nice moves late in the first getting Heath Miller, Roddy White, and Logan Mankins respectively.
This draft does have a pretty famous guy in it, in the 3rd St. Louis took Richie Incognito out of Nebraska.
Matt Cassell went in the 7th to New England.
I would say Green Bay had the best draft, they got some guys who were the foundation for the Super Bowl run a few years later. Of course they got Rodgers, they got Nick Collins in the 2nd, Brady Poppinga in the 4th.
The biggest omission to me would be Josh Cribbs who signed as a free agent with Cleveland.
That's it for the 2005 draft, I think I'll break down 2006 next. In the meantime follow me on twitter @DerekBredeson.
#1 San Francisco-Alex Smith-Utah, a lot of people will say bust and I will agree slightly. Honestly though he never got a fair shake in SF, Alex had a good year in Kansas City last year, he's not elite but he's a starting QB in the league, just not #1, don't say Aaron Rodgers to 49er fans.
#2 Miami-Ronnie Brown-Auburn. As you'll see Auburn had 2 stud RB's in this draft, I honestly though Cadillac was better than Brown, but Ronnie has stood the test of time. He had a few good years in Miami and has since bounced around a little. As time has shown though taking a RB in the top 5 these days is never a good decision.
#3 Cleveland-Braylon Edwards-Michigan. I of course loved this pick, I was a huge Michigan fan and I thought Braylon was a great receiver. Even though he did have 1 great year where him and Derek Anderson were on the same page, he never could find that magic again and has been out of the league for a couple of years now.
#4 Chicago-Cedric Benons-Texas. Well he's still in the league, has a had a few run-ins with the law which lead to his exit from Chicago. He was a decent player but still the cautionary tale of taking a RB in the top 5.
#5 Tampa Bay Carnell Williams-Auburn. The Cadillac was pretty awesome in college. But he only had one 1000 yard rushing season (his rookie year) in the league. Never had more than 6 TD's in a season. He had some knee problems and is no longer in the league. Hard to call him a bust since he won rookie of the year and you can't predict a guy tearing both patella tendons.
#6 Tennessee-Adam Jones-West Virginia. The Pac-Man is still in the league as well, but has a long arrest history and a few suspensions. The fact he's still around is actually pretty impressive.
#7 Minnesota-Troy Williamson-South Carolina. Umm bust? Dude had 87 catches for 1100 or so yards and 4 TD's in his 5 year career, too think Aaron Rodgers went 24th and Minnesota got this guy at 7.
#8 Arizona-Antrell Rolle-Miami (FL). I remember hoping he would fall to the Redskins at 9, hoping him and Sean Taylor could recreate some of the U in DC. Rolle has been a good pro, he has a ring from the Giants, can't say horrible things about the guy he's a good pro.
#9 Washington-Carlos Rogers-Auburn. We're 9 picks in and we have our third Auburn player. I've always though Carlos was a good DB, and he could cover about anyone. His one knock is he can't catch a cold. He eventually left DC for San Francisco and he had a great year 2 years ago, can't fault the Skins for taking him.
#10 Detroit-Mike Williams-USC. In the words of Mike Ditka, he's a slow tight end in a receivers body. Let's just say Matt Millen had no clue how to draft. BUST
Now some other notable players taken.
Gotta start with the best player in this draft Aaron Rodgers went 24 to Green Bay, he's got an MVP and a ring, yeah the first 23 teams all screwed the pooch.
Picks 11-15 yielded 4 Pro Bowlers, DeMarcus Ware, Shawne Merriman, Jammal Brown, and Derrick Johnson. Merriman isn't in the league anymore but he had a few good years.
At 17 one of my favorite guys David Pollack got taken by Cinncy. He could've been awesome but had neck problems and had to retire early. Love the guy on ESPN now.
Pittsburgh, Atlanta, and New England all made nice moves late in the first getting Heath Miller, Roddy White, and Logan Mankins respectively.
This draft does have a pretty famous guy in it, in the 3rd St. Louis took Richie Incognito out of Nebraska.
Matt Cassell went in the 7th to New England.
I would say Green Bay had the best draft, they got some guys who were the foundation for the Super Bowl run a few years later. Of course they got Rodgers, they got Nick Collins in the 2nd, Brady Poppinga in the 4th.
The biggest omission to me would be Josh Cribbs who signed as a free agent with Cleveland.
That's it for the 2005 draft, I think I'll break down 2006 next. In the meantime follow me on twitter @DerekBredeson.
Friday, May 2, 2014
Draft Revisited: 2004
With the NFL draft in a just a few days I had a thought, why not try a series of posts looking back at drafts. Everyone projects the next draft, gives grades right after, but hardly ever do people go back 2, 5, or even 10 years to see the effect a draft had on a team. I'm going to try to do this everyday but don't hold your breath. So here is my first installment of Draft Revisited.
2004 had a lot of intrigue, Eli Manning didn't want to play for the San Diego Chargers, and he was the consensus #1 overall pick, I think we all remember how that worked out. Eli got traded from San Diego to New York after he had to awkwardly hold the Chargers jersey. In return San Diego got Phillip Rivers the 4th overall pick, they also got a pick they used on Nate Kaeding in the 3rd round. I would say that draft worked out almost even, San Diego got 2 pro bowlers and Rivers has been the face of the franchise for the last decade. Manning has 2 rings but also an assload of interceptions since then. Ok fine New York won. Let's look back at the whole Top 10 and then the notable players selected.
#1 San Diego-Eli Manning-Mississippi, traded to New York Giants, 2 rings later, both of which came at Tom Brady's expense, the guy is ok. Not my favorite but I don't think they win with Rivers.
#2 Oakland-Robert Gallery-Iowa, Never panned out at tackle like he was supposed too. Eventually got moved to guard and was serviceable, just not 2nd pick great, especially when guys like Larry Fitzgerald, Sean Taylor, Jonathan Vilma, and Ben Roethlisberger were available. Another miss in Oakland I say.
#3 Arizona-Larry Fitzgerald-Pittsburgh, in my eyes probably the best player in this draft. The guy is a good QB away from being the best WR in the game. Has been to one Super Bowl and honestly should have better numbers.
#4 New York Giants-Phillip Rivers-NC State, traded to San Diego. He's good, could be better, not sure Big Ben would be better in SD, probably the right call for them, Eli was never going to play there. Only thing getting Rivers did was push Drew Brees out the door, which may be a mistake.
#5 Washington-Sean Taylor-Miami (FL), could've been the best safety in the game, guy had an attitude but was starting to fix it until his untimely death. The Redskins were really set back by his death considering it's not like they get a do over and can get another game changing safety in the top 5. My 2nd favorite Redskins player ever.
#6 Cleveland-Kellen Winslow II-Miami (FL), the guy is out of the league, was a decent player for a few years. I would say another whiff in Cleveland, you don't draft in the top 10 all the time when you make the right picks.
#7 Detroit-Roy Williams-Texas. Well this is the theme Detroit had for a few years, taking a WR in the first round. They whiffed with Charles Rogers, sort of hit with Williams until eventually hitting a home run with Calvin Johnson. I will admit that I loved Roy Williams coming out of Texas, I wanted him for the Skins. However I was wrong, and he is now out of the league.
#8 Atlanta-DeAngelo Hall-Virginia Tech. Dude is a decent player, not as good as he thinks he is, but he's been in the league for 10 years now. He eventually left Atlanta, went to Oakland and is now in Washington. He's found a home with the Skins, he's been very servicable.
#9 Jacksonville-Reggie Williams-Washington. Who? That's right, he's been out of the league for 4 years now, amassed a total of 18 TD's, yeah Jacksonville whiffed bad, imagine Ben in Florida.
#10 Houston Texans-Dunta Robinson-South Carolina. He's still in the league, one of my favorite players in Madden since he always seems to get better. He plays in Atlanta now, he's alright, always been a starter or a nickel back since coming in the league. Once again you can't help but wonder what Ben could do in Houston with Andre Johnson.
That's the top 10 let's look at some other notable picks in the 1st round.
I've mentioned him about 5 times but Big Ben went 11 to Pittsburgh, the rest is 2 rings history.
Jonathan Vilma went 12 to the Jets, he of course was in the middle of the bounty gate in New Orleans, along with #18 pick Will Smith.
Vince Wilfork went to the Patriots and Steven Jackson went to the Rams. Those are about the best picks of the first round.
Some of worst picks are Gallery and of course Reggie Williams. Some other questionable guys Micheal Clayton to Tampa, and JP Lossman to Buffalo. But for sure Williams was the biggest bust. I would say though this first round shook down pretty well, and this class actually stood up for itself, hell they have 4 rings at QB in 9 seasons, that's pretty good.
Let's look at the later rounds, I won't dwell too long here. Colts got Bob Sanders got in the 2nd, he's out of the league now but he did win one defensive player of the year.
The Bears were very focused on the on the front 4, taking Tommie Harris in the 1st and Tank Johnson in the 2nd. They also got Nathan Vasher who a lot of Bears fans loved for a few year.
San Diego had a great draft getting Rivers, Kaeding, Nick Hardwick, Shaun Phillips, and Micheal Turner, probably some of the best players. All of whom have played in Pro Bowls.
Kansas City got Jarred Allen in the late 4th. Probably one of the biggest steals, too bad he didn't pan out for them, but he dominated in Minnesota.
The Redskins took another of my favorite all time players in Chris Cooley in the 3rd.
Matt Schaub was also in the class going in the 3rd to Atlanta.
Gotta give love to Green Bay getting Scott Wells with about 5 picks left in the draft, he worked out alright for them.
Now who do you think is the biggest snub of this draft? Wes Welker went undrafted and signed with guess who, San Diego, further separating themselves as my best draft. Too bad they didn't turn that into a Super Bowl.
Hopefully I'll do a few more before Thursday. Follow me on twitter @derekbredeson
2004 had a lot of intrigue, Eli Manning didn't want to play for the San Diego Chargers, and he was the consensus #1 overall pick, I think we all remember how that worked out. Eli got traded from San Diego to New York after he had to awkwardly hold the Chargers jersey. In return San Diego got Phillip Rivers the 4th overall pick, they also got a pick they used on Nate Kaeding in the 3rd round. I would say that draft worked out almost even, San Diego got 2 pro bowlers and Rivers has been the face of the franchise for the last decade. Manning has 2 rings but also an assload of interceptions since then. Ok fine New York won. Let's look back at the whole Top 10 and then the notable players selected.
#1 San Diego-Eli Manning-Mississippi, traded to New York Giants, 2 rings later, both of which came at Tom Brady's expense, the guy is ok. Not my favorite but I don't think they win with Rivers.
#2 Oakland-Robert Gallery-Iowa, Never panned out at tackle like he was supposed too. Eventually got moved to guard and was serviceable, just not 2nd pick great, especially when guys like Larry Fitzgerald, Sean Taylor, Jonathan Vilma, and Ben Roethlisberger were available. Another miss in Oakland I say.
#3 Arizona-Larry Fitzgerald-Pittsburgh, in my eyes probably the best player in this draft. The guy is a good QB away from being the best WR in the game. Has been to one Super Bowl and honestly should have better numbers.
#4 New York Giants-Phillip Rivers-NC State, traded to San Diego. He's good, could be better, not sure Big Ben would be better in SD, probably the right call for them, Eli was never going to play there. Only thing getting Rivers did was push Drew Brees out the door, which may be a mistake.
#5 Washington-Sean Taylor-Miami (FL), could've been the best safety in the game, guy had an attitude but was starting to fix it until his untimely death. The Redskins were really set back by his death considering it's not like they get a do over and can get another game changing safety in the top 5. My 2nd favorite Redskins player ever.
#6 Cleveland-Kellen Winslow II-Miami (FL), the guy is out of the league, was a decent player for a few years. I would say another whiff in Cleveland, you don't draft in the top 10 all the time when you make the right picks.
#7 Detroit-Roy Williams-Texas. Well this is the theme Detroit had for a few years, taking a WR in the first round. They whiffed with Charles Rogers, sort of hit with Williams until eventually hitting a home run with Calvin Johnson. I will admit that I loved Roy Williams coming out of Texas, I wanted him for the Skins. However I was wrong, and he is now out of the league.
#8 Atlanta-DeAngelo Hall-Virginia Tech. Dude is a decent player, not as good as he thinks he is, but he's been in the league for 10 years now. He eventually left Atlanta, went to Oakland and is now in Washington. He's found a home with the Skins, he's been very servicable.
#9 Jacksonville-Reggie Williams-Washington. Who? That's right, he's been out of the league for 4 years now, amassed a total of 18 TD's, yeah Jacksonville whiffed bad, imagine Ben in Florida.
#10 Houston Texans-Dunta Robinson-South Carolina. He's still in the league, one of my favorite players in Madden since he always seems to get better. He plays in Atlanta now, he's alright, always been a starter or a nickel back since coming in the league. Once again you can't help but wonder what Ben could do in Houston with Andre Johnson.
That's the top 10 let's look at some other notable picks in the 1st round.
I've mentioned him about 5 times but Big Ben went 11 to Pittsburgh, the rest is 2 rings history.
Jonathan Vilma went 12 to the Jets, he of course was in the middle of the bounty gate in New Orleans, along with #18 pick Will Smith.
Vince Wilfork went to the Patriots and Steven Jackson went to the Rams. Those are about the best picks of the first round.
Some of worst picks are Gallery and of course Reggie Williams. Some other questionable guys Micheal Clayton to Tampa, and JP Lossman to Buffalo. But for sure Williams was the biggest bust. I would say though this first round shook down pretty well, and this class actually stood up for itself, hell they have 4 rings at QB in 9 seasons, that's pretty good.
Let's look at the later rounds, I won't dwell too long here. Colts got Bob Sanders got in the 2nd, he's out of the league now but he did win one defensive player of the year.
The Bears were very focused on the on the front 4, taking Tommie Harris in the 1st and Tank Johnson in the 2nd. They also got Nathan Vasher who a lot of Bears fans loved for a few year.
San Diego had a great draft getting Rivers, Kaeding, Nick Hardwick, Shaun Phillips, and Micheal Turner, probably some of the best players. All of whom have played in Pro Bowls.
Kansas City got Jarred Allen in the late 4th. Probably one of the biggest steals, too bad he didn't pan out for them, but he dominated in Minnesota.
The Redskins took another of my favorite all time players in Chris Cooley in the 3rd.
Matt Schaub was also in the class going in the 3rd to Atlanta.
Gotta give love to Green Bay getting Scott Wells with about 5 picks left in the draft, he worked out alright for them.
Now who do you think is the biggest snub of this draft? Wes Welker went undrafted and signed with guess who, San Diego, further separating themselves as my best draft. Too bad they didn't turn that into a Super Bowl.
Hopefully I'll do a few more before Thursday. Follow me on twitter @derekbredeson
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