NASCAR HOF

Well Chris asked me a question in the post below, and I will answer it. First of all totally agree with Chris on the windbag from CBS Sports, if you gonna keep anyone off the ballot it's Bill France Jr. not Dale Sr. That's all I'm gonna say about that. Here is where I think they screwed up, they should have had 10 guys in the first class, this sport is over 60 years old and plenty of guys have claims to be HOFers. This is the first class make it special, next year go to 5, but this year 10 would be fine. First 5 for me, Bill France Sr. founder of NASCAR, built Daytona, took the sport from dirt to pavement. Richard Petty, 200 wins, 7-time points champion, team owner, was the face of the sport. Dale Earnhardt Sr., 7-time points champion, 76 wins, won championships when rules were stricter, death may have been reason for the second biggest fan boom in the sport. Junior Johnson, probably one or the most respected drivers ever, owner of six championship cars. David Pearson, 3 time points champion, 105 wins. Well there you go my top 5, but since I said I wanted 10 in the first class, so here are the final 5. Bill France Jr. took the sport from the South to the nation, got big time sponsors and national TV interested. Cale Yarborough, 3 time straight points champion. Bobby Allison, part of one the best racing families in the sport, 1 time points champion, 85 wins, part of the the biggest event in NASCAR history along with brother Donnie Allison, and Cale Yarborough, if you've never seen this fight check it out. It's from the Daytona 500 in 1979, watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXbHQtZH8dE. These two deserve to be in for transcending the sport, this is the biggest thing to ever happen to the sport. Darrell Waltrip, 3 time points champion, great announcer as well. The final spot I'll give to a car owner, Rick Hendrick, has owned 8 driver point championships, about to be 9, has owned cars when rules have been the strictest and the playing field has been the most even. Well there you have it, I have a lot guys from the last 30 years, but seriously the last 30 years have been way way bigger than the first 30 years of the sport. I have an argument I use often, just because your first doesn't make you the best. Couple of guys who should be in the next 5 years, Red Byron, Bobby Isaac, Tim Flock, Lee Petty, Ned Jarrett, Benny Parsons, Joe Weatherly, Fred Lorenzen, Fireball Roberts, Terry Labonte, Bill Elliott, my man Rusty Wallace, Alan Kulwicki, Davey Allison, and Dale Jarrett. These guys when they retire, Mark Martin, Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, and Jimmie Johnson. There you have it, my only question is what took so long for this Hall of Fame?

What?!?

So today while I was at lunch I was on Cbs Sports and I saw an article from Peter Pistone entitled Byron, not Earnhardt should part of the inaugural HOF class. For people that didn't know Nascar voted for their first five into the hall of fame yesterday. The France family who started and took Nascar to where it is today where the first two in. Richard Petty a remarkable 200 race winner and seven time champion. Dale Earnhardt seventy six race winner and seven time champion. Junior Johnson two time championship driver and two time championship owner rounded out the list. I saw that title for his article and instantly said my new catchy pharse cha please. For those who don't know cha please check ur Chad Ochocino thesaurus. Then i thought this man is creating career suicide. I understand people are in titled to their own opinion but come on! To say Dale Earnhardt shouldn't be in the first hall of fame class is asinine. The man he suggested was Red Byron Nascars first champion. Red was a two time champion in 1948 and 1949. So we will get his due into the hall soon enough, but not over Earnhardt. So then this jag bag goes on saying how great Earnhardt is and what he did for the sport but doesn't believe he should in the hall this year. What?!?! I understand he was the first champion but come on what did he do that Earnhardt didn't. I know he raced in the forties on it was different times but really? I understand with seventy six wins Dale wasn't the driver with the most wins in Nascar history. But when you win seven championship you must be doing something right. I also believe that from the mid 80s to the mid 90s was the most competitive time in Nascar. I mean think of the good drivers from that time. Davey Allison, Mark Martin, Bill Elliot, a young Jeff Gordon, Rusty Wallace, Ricky Rudd, Tim Richmond, and Darrell Waltrip. Every single one of them will be in the hall. Well maybe not Richmond he should be but hes a black sheep. As you can tell I'm an Earnhardt fan who is shocked that somebody would honestly think he wasn't a first time hof er. I wonder how Mr. Pistone email inbox is doing? I'm sure there are quite a few people who agree with me. So Derek who's your first five?

Week 5

So another week in the book and the Bears bye is over. Thank god!

1. The Raiders should should really have to play USC every year to be able to play the NFL season. I mean come on is this team ever going to progress?

2. By the way if you haven't caught my drift Jamarcus Russell sucks.

3. Congrats to the Broncos on beating the ugly uniforms and the Pats,but Josh McDaniels losing both his challenges in the first quarter and a half not smart. Losing them on a clear fumble and a three yard gain not bright.

4. Just want to call Mike Sims Walker a tool for almost costing me a game in fantasy football! Way to get suspended for violating team rules.

5. What the heck happened to the Jags?

6. How many points could the Vikings put up on the Rams? That was a nice easy coast.

7. I really feel bad for Steven Jackson. Heck of a player really doesn't talk much and he hasn't played on a winner.

8. Watching the Jets Monday night just because the Dolphins are great at running the wildcat doesn't mean you have to.

9. Funny how well Braylon Edwards played. When your on a good team helps.

1o. Cedric Benson is a bust. j/k WOW he looks great. Like a said before this is the Texas Ced.

11. So Derek K.C. this weekend have you guys played a team with a win?

12. Looking at the schedule this weekend all those great noon games why wasn't one moved to three?

13. So when you playing the Lions and your running all over them why does the idea we should go shotgun all second half sound like a good idea?

14. What will it take for the Texans to realize their potential.

15. Jeff Fisher just play Vince Young you gotta see what you got. I know Colt and Bradford are waiting but give him a shot.

16. I'm a huge supporter of Tony Dungy but Jim Caldwell is on the gas at all times there is no burn the clock out he is go go go.

Well that's all i got for the week. Week six is next with hopefully some revenge for the Falcons ahead.

Wonderings 10-13-09

Going back to the well, I wonder........

what is taking so long for Dan Snyder to pull the trigger on Jim Zorn, seriously I knew he should be gone almost a year ago.

if anyone besides Miami can run the Wildcat, I'm almost a believer on this thing but I wanna see it work a little bit more, but Monday night it was awesome.

if John Gruden is cut out for the booth, not a fan, he overanalizes everything and why do we need three guys, nobody else goes 3 guys, why does ESPN. Tirico and Jaws would be good enough.

if Brad Childress is gonna screw this up by being Brad Childress, watched Sunday's game and he did not seem to be pushing the right buttons, but maybe I'm wrong.

why everyone picked the Cardinals, pretty sure the Dodgers were the best team in the NL all year, I'm gonna go out on a limb and pick them to go to the series.

if the Angels can make me happy and win this series.

if Brandon Marshall is smarter than I think, the dude played the game and lost, now he's playing out of his mind and could demand some real value if he throws another tizzy.

why receivers can go over a DB's back, but DB's can go over WR's back, I watched that play in the Denver-New England game, Orton threw a deep ball to Marshall, and he totally raped the DB but no call. Jess said it was because he was going for the ball, if the DB was going for the ball Denver get its at the 2.

if Phil Ivey can show back up in November and bring this thing home for the Pro's. Sorry watching Poker on ESPN right now, so I'm in that train of thought. I hope he does it.

if the Colts actually got better when Dungy left, this is a total farce but dude, 5-0 and are kicking some arse.

are the Saints ready for all this attention, if they keep it up New Orleans is gonna be busy place, and guess what we're gonna be reminded of again. Her name starts with a K.

if Boise is undefeated, Florida or Bama have one loss, and Texas has a loss, does Boise get it's shot, they better damn it.

can Iowa run the road gauntlet the next two weeks, or is there a let down in there, Wisconsin is a tough place to play, but they did just win a Penn State.

can San Fran bounce back from that loss, come on guys I'm drinking the Kool-Aid, please don't let me down.

why are there bye weeks? I don't need a break from the losing.

how much longer before we see some Vince Young, he might have played Sunday I didn't watch, but Fisher what you got to lose, your done.

if the Rams are gonna win one this year, seriously you had your shot against the Skins, not many bullets left.

if Rex Ryan had his Super Bowl week 3, all that talk leading into the Pats game now since two losses.

Lost Sunday

Yesterday sucked, what a shit day. We go out and lose to another team with zero wins, I'd like to thank the NFL for this easy ass schedule, and I'd like to thank the Skins for screwing it all up. You guys have got to be kidding me, 17-2 lead blown, well good job Z-man, why aren't you fired yet? The problems are all the same, accept for these few. This is Chris Cooley's line, the best player on our team, ZERO CATCHES for ZERO YARDS. Hey, Zorn you have Todd Yoder to block, let him block and let Cooley run some pass routes, and Campbell get it through your thick skull Cooley is a great option. Speaking of thick skulls, we might have won is Byron Westbrook didn't muff a punt inside the twenty. Which begs the question, why was he returining a punt, I thought Randle El did that, and when he needed a blow Santana Moss did it, good call Zorn. Too make matters better Chris Samuels is out at least one week, and Phillip Daniels is playing hurt. Why do we have Phillip Daniels again? I'm sorry but Chris needs to go, he's been hurt a lot the last few years. Well moving on in my day, my boy Denny decides he needs to be dumb ass, takes a hard line on Juan Montoya, and then takes a few spins around and catches the end of the pit wall ending his day. Hey Denny when your in the lead try not wrecking yourself. Seriously dude, you need to leave these personal vendetta's out of the car. They bit you in the ass twice this weekend, first on Saturday subbing for Kyle you were so focused on Keselowski that when Biffle got behind you, you didn't notice and got wrecked. Then when Montoya is in second you try to cut him off, WHY, if that JJ or Gordon you don't make that move, I know you don't because you don't have beef with them. Denny your a dumbass and need to grow up just a little more. First place to 36th stellar move in the Chase. I was so grumpy last night I didn't even bother to watch the Colts game, instead opting for Footloose on CMT, I hate watching movies on regular TV, but it was better than being reminded of the days failures.

Iowa

I live in Iowa now. I lived in Wisconsin for around 22 years, I've never liked anything Wisconsin sports. I've cheered for University of Wisconsin hockey, that's it. For most of my sporting life I like Michigan in football and basketball, then a few things happened, mainly Rich Rodriguez, and I no longer like Michigan. Well me and Chris had a little drawing one night and I drew Alabama among other schools, I chose 'Bama, of course to make me look like a fair weather fan the go undefeated regular season. Lose the SEC Championship game and lose the bowl game. Well, I'm having a hard time liking the SEC, I know it's the best conference, but I'm a Big Ten kid and I miss not have rooting interest in the Big Ten accept for cheering for whose playing Wisconsin, Michigan, and Ohio State. With the recent developments in my life I've pretty much decided I'm gonna start cheering for the Hawkeyes. I know I know, their undefeated leave your bandwagon comments on the bottom. But, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna live in Iowa for a long time, my kids are gonna grow up here, and well it's easier to follow a team close to home than thousands of miles away. I'll still have rooting interest in Alabama, but I'm gonna start following the Hawks.

Now you ask, Derek why Iowa it's because their good isn't it. Well, for one yeah, nobody wants to cheer for a loser. But there are other reasons, Iowa City is around an hour way, easy to get to games. The other D-I team Iowa State is 2 1/2 hours away, they stink, and well their in the Big 12, so my missing of the Big Ten is still there. My brother is a Hawks fan, has been since I've known him. His liking was really for wrestling, but he follows the football team, and this is gonna burn his ass when I start showing up with the black and gold on, and know more about the team than he does. They show the games on local TV, this is more of a basketball thing but still, it'll be easier to follow the basketball team, I couldn't name one guy from Alabama last year. I also want this, when I was a kid I more or less berated Badger fans every Monday, now in the workplace I wanna be able to talk to guys on the long ass road trips about stuff they like. So if I learn more about the Hawks I'll have more to talk about. So there you go call me a bandwagoner, a homer, whatever you want, but at least it's Iowa not USC or Florida.

The Brett Favre Enigma

I gotta come out and say it, I LOVE Brett Favre. I do, he is awesome, ageless, timeless, and ruthless, that's a whole bunch of lesses. If you didn't watch last nights game, why do read this blog, if you like sports you watched. Since I'm on the east coast and had to work at 6 I only stayed up until the middle of the 3rd quarter. The part or the game I watched, Favre had "it," whatever that is he had it. Aaron Rogers looked good as well, he can move and throw like none other, he makes mistakes though, and his line stinks. Side note, thank you for the 8 sacks I won a fantasy game by 1 points because of those sacks. Back to the topic, Favre, the dude was on. That pump 'n go to Berrian was awesome. Sidney Rice is turning into a go to guy, he's kind of turning into what Cotchery was last year. You know Berrian like you knew Lavernius Coles, and fans knew of Cotchery and Rice, but neither were great. Both Cotchery last year, Rice this are showing what can happen when they have talent throwing them the ball. Rice a second round pick in 2006, I had to look that up, has been playing to that potential for the first time in his career, he was there for Brett every throw, accept for the one he wasn't expecting to get the ball on. Also, the first TD to Shiancoe, spelling on that, the play was amazing, look right, look right, oh yeah that guy on the other side of the field is open, Brett threw the ball 20 yards on a rope for a 1 yard TD, pretty cool.

I'm not a Packer fan, never have been. I had my interests peek just because when you live with Packer fans, have family Christmas with Packer fans, go to school with, be taught by, live by, pretty much anything you do in Wisconsin, you do it with Packer fans. On the Bredeson side I have 9 cousins, plus my 3 siblings, and Greg, step brother. Of those 13 people 11 on Packer fans, at least when I was younger, only non ones are my sister, 49ers and my cousin Russ, Colts. So guess what at family gatherings we watched Green Bay, that's it. So my point is this, I had to watch the guy from 1992 to now. When you watch one of the greatest ever, you learn to appreciate the guy. You can't be a Favre hater, you can try all you want but you have to respect talent. How many QB's have played in the NFC North since '92? Well at least 20 in Chicago, 10 or so in Minny, Daunte had a few years, and Detroit, well nobody cares. Green Bay has had 2, and Rogers is his second year. Brett is all the things that people say about him, gunslinger, plays a little out of control, rocket arm, and linebacker mentality. The last is totally true, he's gonna be 40 in less than a week and on the bubble screen to Harvin last night, when Harvin reversed his field ole number 4 was running downfield looking for someone to block. Of course Harvin got tripped up behind the line but still the oldest QB in the league was running downfield looking to light someone up, or at least get in there way. How many people has Peyton Manning blocked in his career? Yet he's the one whose gonna challenge the records. If he played with that intesity I'm sure he'd miss some games. When a guy plays like that you can't help but love him.

The love of Brett wasn't instant for me, I was young, I wanted to hate Green Bay with a passion. You know when I picked the Skins, the Pack was nothing, they had the Majik man and Sterling Sharpe that's it. Then the Majik man went down and the streak began. People say you can't lose your job to injury, oh yeah ask Brett Favre and Tom Brady how that works out. I always wanna point that out when people say that crap. "You can't lose your job, you just can't, your the QB your team needs you, and needs to know who the leader is. When you get back your job should be waiting for you," say the random ESPN Analyst. Oh yeah dude, how'd that work out for Don Majkoski and Drew Bledsoe? So, as Brett got older I noticed some things, for one in those days he threw a lot of picks. Two he threw to Sharpe a lot. Then Sharpe retired due to injury and Favre started his list of guys made better by him. Starting with Robert Brooks and Antonio Freeman. The Super Bowl year he was helped out by Andre "Bad Moon" Rison, and a stellar D led by the one of the greatest ever. I kind of bandwagoned onto that team, had to cheer for someone and I like the NFC more than the AFC, it was kind of like when I cheered for the Rams against the Titans because my two buddies and one buddies dad liked them, just showed support to the people I knew. Favre played with so much passion and the celabration after the first TD in the Super Bowl, when he ran around the field helmet off, I was like this dude loves this game. He still celebrates like a little kid after every score. I love that about him, he still has the passion the flare, the whatever you wanna call it. Think that guy who played last night looked like a guy who should be at home watching football? I don't think so, he was throwing beads all over the field, and making decisions better than he ever has. He also picked the perfect situation, the Pack showed it last night, teams are gonna make Brett beat them because their affraid of Adrian Peterson. Hate to break it to teams, but Favre is in the top 3 QB's of all-time, All Day is the best RB right now but he's not even in the top 20 of all time, YET. I go yet because he's still young. If I had a choice I'd let the RB beat me, not one of the greatest ever. So, I know this was a lot jibberish about stuff you already know, but I just had to explain why I love me some Brett. My final thought on Brett can be summed up by an old announcer. "When you get a guy like Brett Favre on your team you get Brett Favre type of plays, and a Brett Favre type of player, who makes Brett Favre type of throws." Thanks John, maybe we'll see Brett in the Super Bowl again this year, and guess who I'll be cheering for?

Week 4 Thoughts

So first off I want to say I was at the Bears game so I didn't watch most games.

1. So good guess Derek about Aaron Rodgers, but nobody wants to see Jenna Jameson on her back anymore. Way to used and abused think of somebody newer.

2. Great idea the N.F.L. had with the wearing pink for breast cancer awareness. But the N.F.L should really do something for the majority of its viewers. I'm all for saving the ta tas but for a guy why don't they do something for prostate cancer or maybe wear baby blue for the E.D. suffers.

3. Speaking of pink Tom Brady should be required to wear pink at all times. That "hit" he took are you kidding me personal foul!!! That was terrible.

4. Yet again why I love football. Sixteen games is all you got. Baseball 162 and guys get hammered before the biggest game of the year. I always wonder how many times at the end of the year a player goes gee we could have made that one game up but i got shitfaced and went 0-4 for the day.

5. Jamarcus Russell still sucks.

6. For the people that say Jay Cutler doesn't care did you see the hit he took diving for that touchdown? Ya he cares.

7. So it looks like there will be a battle in Cleveland. Lebron James vs. Braylon Edwards. Name of the fight will be. Guys Who Will Be Gone Next Summer.

8. How many 0-4 teams can the Skins play? Looking good I mean enough to get by against them though.

9. Pretty disappointed that Chicago didn't get the 2016 Olympics. Always find it funny that something like this the world wants to pretty much tell us where to go. But if it comes to something serious they beg us to help. The IOC knows Chicago had the best bid and basically screwed them.

10. Danica Patrick now rumored to go be going to Jr Motorsports. Would be the best move for her going to a satellite team of the best team in the garage. Wise and easy choice.

11. Why is it whenever you see Brett Farve play the announcers always act like they are ten years old and the saw there first Playboy. I mean Jon Gruden clam down!

What if

No fantasy match up this week, or ever again. I've picked three games and haven't gotten one right, heck everytime the team I picked got killed. So instead of being the Sports Illustrated curse I'll refrain from picking. Besides you can admit it, you didn't care about fantasy match ups. So, I'll try something new again, after the wonderings, which I believe is a hit, it's gonna be along the same lines only I'm gonna say, "What if" this happens and add what an effect could be or along that lines. Let's see how it works, what if........

Bill Cowher never said no to Dan Snyder a summer ago? Pretty sure we're 3-0 defending our NFC East championship with a bitter taste in our mouths after losing in the NFC Championship game.

Aaron Rogers is on his back more than Jenna Jameson on Monday night? This is more of a prediction, that terrible line against Jared Allen and the rest of the Vikes, Rogers may leave the field on a golf cart.

Sam Bradford left Oklahoma? Well, for one Sam is in Detroit, not hurt, Drew Stafford is the QB for the 1-2 Jets, and Mark Sanchez knowing Sam came out, stays at USC and they are 3-0 on their way to the ship.

the Cubs won a world series? The entire midwest would burn to the ground, I think the riots in Iowa would rival those in Chicago.

Jay Cutler convinced Jerry Angelo that Brandon Marshall was worth whatever Denve asked for? Dude, can you say Chicago vs. Minny for the NFC Championship, and the score would be 56-55, amazing.

Michael Crabtree wasn't an idiot? San Francisco, is undefeated, Crabtree has around 5 TD's in his first 3 games, Samurai has his defense swarming to the ball and playing out of their minds. I guess that last one is happening anyway. Side note, how dumb do you look holding out on a 2-1 team, that was 8 seconds away from 3-0?

a Nascar drive had a bad car after a wreck? Every time someone gets wrecked in the first half of the race, they had a great car. Jeff Burton is king of this. "Ok let's go down to Dave Burns with Jeff Burton." Burton takes a swig of Coke Zero. Burns say, "Jeff what happened out there." "Well we thought we had a real good car, one that was gonna contend for a win today. The 31 Catapilliar Impala was running great and we were moving to the front." Dude, you were in 19th when you got wrecked how were you contending? Plus, you can say you had a good car when you can't prove because your out of the race. Just once, I want someone besides Kyle Busch to go, well we had junk today the car wouldn't turn, I really didn't pass anyone, and well at least with this wreck we won't have to run the final 200 miles to finish where we were gonna end up anyway.

Superman turned to a life of crime? He couldn't be stopped.

Urban Meyer got nailed for recruiting violations? I am not accusing him of any wrong doing, NONE whatso ever. That is not a joke, he's a good coach, their a good team, and they prove it year after year. But could you imagine, he gave Tebow money to stay or something crazy like that. I mean Tebow has a clean image, ESPN eats him up, that dude is purer than pure. I mean it would lead Sportscenter every day for a week straight. This just in Tebow got 2.5 million dollars from Meyer, which he used on the weekends for cocaine and strippers. What a bombshell man, if this happens remember where you heard it first. I pray this never happens.

Jacksonville never go the Jaguars? Actually not much would change, LA might have a franchise, it's not like the people of Jacksonville would miss them.

someone told the NHL it's way to early to start the season? Seriously thought the NFL is 3 weeks old, and your starting, they don't finish until May. People say baseball is a long season, hockey has to be longer.

Sidney Crosby and Alex Ovechkin ended up on the same team? It would be like the Edmonton Oilers of the 80's with Gretzky and Messier. By the way GO PENS.

the Giants had one person who could get a hit down the stretch? Well, with Timmy, Cain, and Zito all pitching well, the sky was the limit, just didn't have a bat. Hey Brian Saben we haven't had anyone who could hit since you let Bonds go, it's time to fix that problem.

Michigan hired Les Miles? Well, for one I'd still be a Michigan fan, West Virginia would still be a good team. LSU would be the same. So the only person it would affect is me.

Hate List

Before I get started, I have something to say. If it seems like I'm giving up on the Skins, I'm not. I'm just frustrated as are all the fans. I picked this team to win the division and now I'm looking like an idiot in front of our 4 readers. That makes me mad so I must vent, that is all onto tonights topic. The hate list, I shouldn't call it the hate list, maybe the dislike list, hate is a strong word, I don't use hate. I only hate two things, The Dallas Cowboys and someone from my past. That's it, so instead this is a list of things I strongly dislike......

Notre Dame, pretty much everything to do with the school is annoying. Chicago Cubs, not the team so much just the fans, every year is "the year," accept it never is. Dale Earnhardt Jr. fans, I have plenty of friends who are Jr. fans and their nice, but he gets a lot of media because he's the most popular driver, however he's never won jack. If my guy is out of the top 10 I don't hear his name, or what's going on with his car, but Jr. could be running 28th and you'll hear something about him, lately this trend has gone down which is nice, but the focus is still there. TV timeouts, so someone just scored, commercial, we kick, commercial, then the other team comes on offense, what the crap is that about? You go to commercial for 3 minutes, show 8 seconds of football, then 3 more minutes of commercials. DUMB!!! Sean Hannity, not sure that's how you spell his name, but this is how I do it, this guy is an idiot. Pretty sad that John Stewart is more trustworthy than this bag of douche. Controversal sports writers, I mostly mean Jay Mariotti and Skip Bayless, I think even they only believe half of what comes out their mouths. All they do is say outlandish stuff and then half heartdly try to defend their outrageous opinion, you know after the camera goes off they go, "I wonder if the audience bought it." Case in point Skip "hates" LeBron and doesn't give him credit at all. I'm sorry but LeBron is in the top 3 when it comes to active players, he takes games over, and probably the best passer in the league. Tony Romo, name one thing he's accomplished, he threw to T.O. that's it, he sucks. I can't stand this guy he's like Brett Favre without the talent. People who claim a player ruins his legacy because he hangs around too long, or unretires or does whatever the hell he wants with his career. What legacy, your opinion of the guy is that what you mean? Jordan still got in the hall on his first try, he still has 6 rings, he's still the Greatest of all time, his stats are the same as they've been since he retired, in fact he's been gone for 5 years and his shoes are still the best selling, so where is that legacy getting tarnished at again? Because, he played for the Wiz he's no longer the greatest, HARDLY, he's still MJ. So, yeah Favre is getting killed for going to Minny, he stabbed Packer fans in the back, sort of. But hey, they got rid of him, don't want him in the purple, start him, but I digress, anyway in five six, or seven years, depends on when he retires, he's still in the hall, he still holds the records, and has that Super Bowl ring, he may get another one, and if he wins the Super Bowl this year, then what about his legacy? All those guys will start to change their tune then. Who am I to tell you not to play anymore, I can't, your gonna do whatever the hell you want, someone wants to sign you, your gonna play. We can't tell people to stop working, and making cash. Can we say you held on too long, sure but that was your choice, and I'm gonna guess a guy "holding on too long," never kept him out of a hall of fame.